tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993606296984863193.post8484480346961613995..comments2024-03-01T02:27:52.708-08:00Comments on flatmattersonline: The internet revolution debate-part twoflatmattershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15095869438938508869noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993606296984863193.post-57908673377025070032011-01-23T01:27:49.507-08:002011-01-23T01:27:49.507-08:00Thanks Brian, that was great feedback.Thanks Brian, that was great feedback.flatmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15095869438938508869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993606296984863193.post-49351019769896042342011-01-22T18:13:20.124-08:002011-01-22T18:13:20.124-08:00I actually worked for Props for a year and a half ...I actually worked for Props for a year and a half in the late 90's, Pre Tunney. We had another employee that did all the music clearance legalities. Actually it wasn't that hard because SHE had some contacts at several underground labels (that had popular music in the BMX world at the time) that sent PROPS music to review and use at their discretion. So copyright infringement wasn't really an issue. Plus I think the internet revolution in general has wiped out the old idea of "copyrighting" in general. Its just way to easy to cut and paste images, text, music, etc . We need to think about it differently and accept it as a form or flattery or promotion and go from there.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11056241053993621976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993606296984863193.post-2809362791101391942011-01-22T16:45:40.995-08:002011-01-22T16:45:40.995-08:00@idiotflatland, no one's crying here, just exp...@idiotflatland, no one's crying here, just explaining copyrights for those crying about old videos that don't have the original music. What's important is that anyone can see the riding and who it is, with or without the music, but some videos aren't even viewable in certain countries because of copyrights.<br />It's all about intellectual property--creative development, legitimate ownership and proper management.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13025376896136560014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993606296984863193.post-81175888766737906392011-01-22T12:48:48.490-08:002011-01-22T12:48:48.490-08:00From my perspective, the only reason Flatland Mani...From my perspective, the only reason Flatland Manifesto isn't online for free is that I'm working 3 jobs and raising a family - that doesn't leave a lot of time to capture the videos and post them to Youtube.<br /><br />I'm happy other riders have taken up the torch and posting the classics online. I know that if I contacted another rider and asked them to take the videos down, they would.<br /><br />Flatlanders are generally pretty good people. Besides TJ Perry, I haven't met a flatlander I didn't like. ;)Shane Nevillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17684361446657097792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993606296984863193.post-32900690294866975202011-01-21T14:01:37.746-08:002011-01-21T14:01:37.746-08:00Good points Darren, I thought however Brian Tunney...Good points Darren, I thought however Brian Tunney cleared all the music on props??flatmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15095869438938508869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993606296984863193.post-33591225358102488542011-01-21T13:43:26.854-08:002011-01-21T13:43:26.854-08:00I don't think any reasonable person should be ...I don't think any reasonable person should be getting too upset, considering the vast majority of those videos we grew up watching in the 90's featured unauthorized music that would have probably resulted in their makers facing their own legal issues had bike riding had more than about 300 people involved in it at the time. The only people I've heard getting upset about it are the Props guys, who probably just don't want to draw attention to the fact that they made their living for the first 5 or six years selling videos with a stolen soundtrack.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03744544410126226005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993606296984863193.post-78704891451235334382011-01-21T13:02:50.163-08:002011-01-21T13:02:50.163-08:00i agree with Clayborn i really don't see any n...i agree with Clayborn i really don't see any negatives its there for public entertainment and to enjoy watching , i think it certainly educates us as some may have not seen some of these classic's so in that sense it opens our eyes to what was going on at that time , thanks to Kala and Clayborn for their dedication .Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02922840920441875473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993606296984863193.post-51926087657617792282011-01-21T06:47:44.670-08:002011-01-21T06:47:44.670-08:00I don't think anyones crying, just merely aski...I don't think anyones crying, just merely asking a question, what are the positives and negatives of this situation, bit of respect for the artist and all that..I do believe the DVD will be a rarer thing in all of bmx within the next year, full videos are up online right after the DVD gets dropped. There's not a lot you can do copyright wise, I guess it is just having bit of respect. What else can it be? <br />Thanks to Kala, Claybom and Viki for taking the time to voice their opinions.flatmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15095869438938508869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2993606296984863193.post-1349146076766467442011-01-21T06:22:47.470-08:002011-01-21T06:22:47.470-08:00lol @ you guys crying about copyrights and stuff.....lol @ you guys crying about copyrights and stuff... <br /><br />you guys want to see Viki's solo video??? - "madrid sessions" i think it was called? type in "viki kgb" on vimeo.... lol...youre welcomeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com